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			<title><![CDATA[ Ongoing Projects ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I haven&#39;t been posting much new lately under General Discussion as I&#39;ve been mainly working on the Named Liguus of Florida section. Check out the new
updates there, and feel free to add comments here (General Discussion).
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<br>
Phil ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ The Quirks of L. f. t. var. gloriasylvaticus ]]></title>
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			<title><![CDATA[ 1941 article ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I was looking at the archives of the Koreshan Unity Society. They were a utopia society, some say cult, at what is now Koreshan State Park in Estero south of
Fort Myers.
<br>
Their heyday was around 1894-1907, but they stayed in existence for many years after that. I think the last member died out in the 1980s and the site of the
former community became a historical park. (My favorite is their old machine shop and generator.)
<br>
They were a very learned community, conducted plays and... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ More on Zonation ]]></title>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Green Lines ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <a target="_blank" href="http://img19.imageshack.us/i/livingstonipc.jpg/"><img src="http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8183/livingstonipc.jpg" alt="image"></a><a target="_blank" href="http://img150.imageshack.us/i/livingstonipcv.jpg/"><img src="http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6085/livingstonipcv.jpg" alt="image"></a>
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PC 87
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			<title><![CDATA[ L. f. t. var. evergladesensis and reedi ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <p><a target="_blank" href="http://img169.imageshack.us/i/evergladesensisjones.jpg/"><img src="http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7329/evergladesensisjones.jpg" alt="image"></a><a target="_blank" href="http://img21.imageshack.us/i/evergladesensisjonesv.jpg/"><img src="http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8586/evergladesensisjonesv.jpg" alt="image"></a>  
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			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:12:57 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ L. f. t. var. testudineus, brickellensis and archiejonesi ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <div id="ms__id20">
  <font face="Arial">The following is a simplified set of definitions that may help collectors identify these three somewhat confusing varieties.
  <br>
  Pilsbry, 1912, in describing <em><em>testudineus</em></em>: &quot;The pattern consists fundamentally of broad, sinuous dark flames which <em>fork below the
  white sutural line</em> producing a tessellated border, often smeared with reddish.&quot;
  <br>
  From this original type, and the type of the related... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ L. f. t. var. mosieri and lossmanicus ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;ve taken another look at the <em>mosieri</em> of Brickell Hammock and other Miami locations. Most shells in collections have some degree of a pale bronze
coloration over most of the shell. There is sometimes a diffuse zone at the periphery that is nearly white, though this should not be confused with zonation in
the sense that <em>cigulatus</em> is zonated. A subsutural line of white is also evident on specimens with significant coloration. These are characteristics of
<em>L.</em>... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:29:49 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Mixes &amp; Hybrids ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <a target="_blank" href="http://img41.imageshack.us/i/ornatusxkrulli.jpg/"><img src="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1959/ornatusxkrulli.jpg" alt="image"></a>
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<em>L. f. testudineus</em> var. <em><em><em><em>krulli</em></em></em></em> x <em>L. f. testudineus</em> var. <em>ornatus</em>, and <em>L. f. lignumvitae</em>
var.... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:53:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ L. f. matecumbensis ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <a target="_blank" href="http://imageshack.us/"></a><a href="http://img183.imageshack.us/i/matecumbensis4.jpg/"><img src="http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7130/matecumbensis4.jpg" alt="image"></a><a target="_blank" href="http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=matecumbensisumkv2.jpg"><img alt="image" src="http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/383/matecumbensisumkv2.jpg"></a> <a target="_blank" href="http://img183.imageshack.us/i/matecumbensisflamingo2.jpg/"><img... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:35:14 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ L. f. t. var. roseatus of Southwestern Florida ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ The following is from Emmel and Cotter, 1995.
<br>
&quot;Miller (1921) reports that Capt. W. D. Collier transplanted <em><em>Liguus</em></em> onto Marco Island, Goodland Point and Caxambas. According to
Collier, <em><em>Liguus</em> fasciatus</em> was not found on Key Marco before his introduction. Hence, the type location for roseatus is an introduced site. He
claims to have introduced &#39;them&#39; (number unknown) from Middle Cape, Cape Sable. Collier also collected shells on the lower... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 09:40:56 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ More on Partial Zonation ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <a target="_blank" href="http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cingulatusvaca.jpg"><img src="http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1984/cingulatusvaca.jpg" alt="image"></a><a target="_blank" href="http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cingulatusvacav.jpg"><img src="http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8210/cingulatusvacav.jpg" alt="image"></a>
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Key Vaca
<br>
<br>
Going through some Key Vaca shells, I found one labeled &quot;<em><em>lossmanicus</em></em>.&quot; That would be a rare... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 14:36:48 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Hatchling Liguus and determining age ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Finally some rain!! I was out today at one of my favorite snail spots. This place produced many great snail photos last year and it has not disappointed me
today. I encountered 5 hatchlings moving up from the leaf litter today. I gained interest last year after the initial rains and missed out on early
developmental shots.
<br>
<br>
My question is this. I was looking at figure 1.5 on page 5 of  H. Close&#39;s book. The diagram lacks explanation as to what exactly it is showing. Is each
snail... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 11:31:54 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ The solidus of Simpson ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ The last of the tough nuts. I&#39;m not completely comfortable with how things stand with this variety/subspecies.
<br>
It&#39;s not the <em>solidus</em> of Say, and it doesn&#39;t fit well with the subspecies <em><em>pictus</em></em> or <em>solidulus</em>. It is reported from
Big Pine Key by Simpson, from Little Pine Key by Jones, and from the Lower Keys by Power. It looks like a subspecies, a product of isolation, but it&#39;s
reported from keys that are home to the <em>pictus</em>... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 17:06:14 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ The crassus of Simpson ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ The fourth of my unreconciled varieties/subspecies of Florida <em>Liguus</em> was the <em>crassus</em> of Simpson. I&#39;m now convinced that the variety is an
albinistic <em>osmenti</em> and that the type locality is Howe Key. See <a target="_blank" href="http://liguusdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1083?page=-1">http://liguusdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1083?page=-1</a>
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<br>
Phil ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 16:48:49 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Top Florida Liguus ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Nearly four years ago, most of the regulars posted their picks of the top ten in terms of <em>desirability</em>. Numbers aren&#39;t the whole story.
<br>
See the old post: <a target="_blank" href="http://liguusdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/598">http://liguusdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/598</a>  
<br>
My list has changed and I&#39;ll bet others have too.
<br>
<br>
<strong>1</strong>  <em><em>stearnsi</em></em> (Stearns&#39; &quot;<em><em>pictus</em></em>&quot;): a unique and glamorous shell... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 14:43:47 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ The pictus of Stearns ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ The third of my unreconciled varieties/subspecies of Florida <em>Liguus</em> has been the &quot;<em>pictus</em>&quot; of Stearns.
<br>
I agree with Emilio that it is so different from the type of Reeve, almost certainly the variety from Big Pine Key, that it is likely the product of a
long-separated population, probably located on Key West. It is similar enough to the shells of the <em>pictus</em> subspecies to be placed there, but I
wouldn&#39;t argue if someone wanted to consider it a... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 19:16:32 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ The solidus of Say ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ The second of my unreconciled varieties/subspecies of Florida <em><em>Liguus</em></em> was the <em>solidus</em> of Say. Folks have been trying to pound it into
a square hole since 1825. I think I have a better fit.
<br>
<a href="http://imageshack.us/" target="_blank"><br>
<img alt="image" src="http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1218/pictus22mw7.jpg"></a>   <a target="_blank" href="http://imageshack.us/"><img alt="image" src="http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5241/pseudopictus23tt2zl3.jpg"></a>... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 17:34:43 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ What Makes Up a Sustainable Hammock ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I was going through photos I took last season and I was labeling locations and it occurred to me I have no real idea of how small a hammock can be to sustain a
snail population. There is one place in the Redland  I was last year that seemed isolated. from other large groupings of trees. It was in the swale, had a
housing development behind it with manicured lawns, opposite the road was a large mixed hardwood hammock, and too each side (perhaps 100 yards) were also large
hardwook hammocks. So... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:51:47 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Key Vaca marmoratus ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <a target="_blank" href="http://imageshack.us/"><img src="http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3810/farnumipc7jc0.jpg" alt="image"></a><a target="_blank" href="http://imageshack.us/"><img src="http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7867/farnumi2vof0.jpg" alt="image"></a>
<br>
Key Vaca
<br>
<br>
I had been convinced that the above was a PC <em>farnumi</em> until a data slip was found deep inside the shell. It&#39;s a Key Vaca <em>marmoratus</em>, or of
that pedigree, perhaps grown in the SE.
<br>
This... ]]></description>

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